Nah I just don't like egotistical cheaters.Quote:
Originally Posted by amaway
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Nah I just don't like egotistical cheaters.Quote:
Originally Posted by amaway
he waves the british flag yet he left england cause of tax reasons.. dont like him
I don't care about Massa.Quote:
Originally Posted by amaway
:laugh::laugh::laugh: Sorry going to be sick now, laughing too much:laugh::laugh:
Anyway will leave you lot to cry in your spilt milk....I am going to celebrate the New World Champion:laugh::laugh:
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He's wc only by title. He doesn't deserve it, he didn't earn it yesterday and he drives like a maniac, sometimes to his own detriment, to get where he is now.
Formula1 used to be a gentleman's sport until he arrived on the scene.
Think back on the chaos Senna created. In that respect the Pork is correct. He is just like Senna.
Down with Hamilton I say. Hope he never wins another race.
Vettel is better than Hamilton
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by duje14
So is Alonso, Massa, Kimi, Kubica and Heidfeld.
Glock went out of Hamiltons way yesterday, he never had any problems. EVERYONE knows it. He didn't deserve to win. He's not WC worthy.
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Originally Posted by Lemmings
yes but then can i point out that raikonen went out of his way to loose a good 10 seconds so that massa could be the champion also had the wrong tyres on cold coming up the real wet area. he had to go slow
hamilton is a great racer who just needs some nurturing i feel that he needs to join a team with alonso or someone elso who is expirienced and can teach him to be patient and race for the points not the win all the time
although masssa in japan did spin him ;)
anway well done hamilton:clap::clap::clap:
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Originally Posted by duje14
it doesn't really matter who is the best anymore
it is all tactics and cars and tyres skill is only a very small decider and hamilton is really very good for the sport him and his team have pushed being cocky to the limit and found what works for him.
he loves all the attention
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Originally Posted by Williamp90
Yes, but that was within a team.
Yesterday was McLaren and Toyota.....
The pope has 7 wives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamp90
From F1Live.com
I'm just wondering how much money Timo had on Lewis to be world champion, an online reader of the International Herald Tribune newspaper commented after the decisive Brazilian Grand Prix.
Had Toyota's Timo Glock not posted a lap time 20 seconds slower than his previous tour of the Interlagos circuit and ceded a place to the Briton, Lewis Hamilton would not have clinched the world championship.
"I am not sure if Glock was trying to do Hamilton a favour or not," said commentator and 1982 world champion Keke Rosberg.
The 'favour' theory is unlikely, given the fact that Hamilton and Glock, following a run-in or two this season, are hardly the best of friends.
"I definitely did not give the place to him (deliberately)," Glock told reporters.
Precisely why Glock had not changed to wet tyres in the late rain shower was not explained, but the German apparently revealed after the race that he had made the request to his pitwall.
"Who would have thought that Glock would have stayed out on dry tyres? It's all a bit technical, but there doesn't seem like anything dodgy or untoward," said McLaren boss Ron Dennis.
Team CEO Martin Whitmarsh insisted the team was confident Glock would be overhauled on the decisive lap, but Mercedes' Norbert Haug admits his heart sank when Sebastian Vettel stole the necessary fifth place from Hamilton.
Asked what had gone through his head, the German answered: "A (German swear) word that begins with S-C-H and ends with E!"
Glock said he felt bad for Felipe Massa, whose crew in the Ferrari garage celebrated the title for a few seconds before it became clear that the Toyota had dropped behind Hamilton.
In an interview with ITV, Hamilton laughed when he was asked what he will say to Glock when he sees him next.
"Well, I don't think I ... he did a great job. Thank God he didn't get in my way or we didn't collide. So a big thank you to him for staying out of the way," the McLaren driver said.
Wednesday is the day scheduled for the announcement of Renault's 2009 driver line-up.
"We will announce both drivers on Wednesday," said team boss Flavio Briatore reiterated at the Interlagos circuit on Sunday, scene of the last race of the 2008 season.
It is widely expected that former double world champion Fernando Alonso will be retained by the French team, particularly after the Spaniard also told reporters at the weekend that 'next week' his plans will be revealed.
Alonso's current team-mate is Nelson Piquet, who has had a difficult rookie season in 2008.
Renault test drivers Lucas di Grassi and Romain Grosjean have been linked with his seat.
23-year-old Piquet's famous namesake and father was spotted in meetings both with Briatore, and Toro Rosso co-owner Gerhard Berger during the Brazilian Grand Prix weekend.
Hamilton WISHES he was a great racer. Nobody wants to teach him ESPECIALLY Alonso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamp90
It's his own fault for spinning in Japan. He's a dangerous, reckless driver.
That's because he's arrogant and has an OVER-SIZED Ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamp90
Hamilton is an a*****e!!!:mad:
And he is very lucky!:mad:
Massa should be 1st!
You know who really gets on my nevres?
His dad.
And his brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronVW
y his brother has brain damage
yes but to the hamilton glock issue and teams a team is two drivers who have the same basic car so really the only difference with hamilton glock and massa kimi is that glock is toyota and anyway who says he didn't slow becuase he wanted to finish in the points and add to his season stash for a bigger bonus
and come all the racers are reckless, 200mph straights
i'd p**s myself
stop arguing anyway...
yh he has won that is that
he was the better driver??? through the season and in the end luck won it for him
but fiscicella has shown the car difference fifth down to last in a race that is bad
i said STOP!!!:mad: all of you its enough!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamp90
i did not say you are wrong...just its enough now...
He's not a gentleman racer. Which makes him an idiot.
He was more lucky than good this year.
But we'll see next year.
:glare:not again......:PQuote:
Originally Posted by Noxide
Will a leg of the F1 still be held in singapore next year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noxide
And Hamilton was lucky...
he took a gamble and it succeeded...
Won by 1 point! Can you believe it? :o
anyways he's porky still...Quote:
Originally Posted by gooblaster
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he is not a gentleman but then does that make him a bad racer
next year all the cars are changing so it should make it closer and show who "really" is the better driver although the backup crew makes a big difference
that matters a lot...honestly...Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamp90
2009 F1 calendar:
29 March: Australia
5 April: Malaysia
19 April: China
26 April: Bahrain
10 May: Spain
24 May: Monaco
7 June: Turkey
21 June: Great Britain
12 July: Germany
26 July: Hungary
23 August: Spain
30 August: Belgium
13 September: Italy
27 September: Singapore
4 October: Japan
18 October: Brazil
1 November: Abu Dhabi
Alonso opts to stay with Renault
Fernando Alonso has ended months of speculation about his future by opting to stay at Renault for two more years.
The double world champion had been a Honda target but has turned them down following Renault's upturn in form.
Alonso, who scored more points than any other driver in the season's final five races, will be partnered by Brazilian Nelson Piquet Jr for a second year.
He said he stayed because Renault had "always been my first choice and I feel happy and comfortable with them."
The Spaniard rejoined Renault, with whom he won the drivers' title in 2005 and '06, at the start of 2008 after a tumultuous season as Lewis Hamilton’s team-mate at McLaren.
The team started the year poorly but they came on strong in the final third of the season after making significant improvements to the car.
That performance, in which Alonso won superbly at both Singapore and Japan, has convinced him to stay with the team in the face of Honda's courtship.
The Anglo-Japanese team have had a poor two seasons with an uncompetitive car but wanted to build their future around Alonso and were said to have effectively offered him an open chequebook.
But in a statement issued by Renault on Wednesday, Alonso said: "Renault are a very close-knit team with a competitive and winning mentality, and also a relaxed and warm attitude, which suits me perfectly.
"After a difficult start to the season, we have overcome our difficulties and constantly improved our performances.
"My back-to-back wins in Singapore and Japan, and my recent second place podium finish in Brazil, have proved how competitive we can be.
"In the past we have won championships together, as well as going through tough moments, but we are now determined to show that we can repeat that success together in the coming seasons."
Alonso had been widely linked with a move to Ferrari either in 2009 or 2010 until the Italian team decided to extend Kimi Raikkonen’s contract.
But Alonso's new deal expires at the same time as Raikkonen's, making a future move to Ferrari a real possibility.
Fernando's commitment for the next two seasons confirms the faith he has in the team
Renault team boss Flavio Briatore
Renault's decision to retain Piquet is a lifeline for the son of triple world champion Nelson Piquet after a disappointing debut season.
Piquet, who was a title rival of Hamilton in the GP2 feeder series in 2006, has been well off Alonso's pace this season, although he did take a fortunate second place in the German Grand Prix in July.
There had been speculation he would be dropped in favour of another Brazilian, the team’s test driver Lucas di Grassi.
But some improved performances in the closing races of the season appear to have persuaded team boss Flavio Briatore to give him a second chance.
Piquet said: "Obviously I am delighted to have the opportunity to race for Renault for a second year.
"Although I have had a tough year, I have learned a lot from my rookie season and I will aim to put that experience to good use next season."
Briatore said the decision gave Renault "one of the most exciting driver pairings with the perfect blend of youth and experience".
He added: "Fernando's commitment for the next two seasons confirms the faith he has in the team and we are delighted to continue working with him.
"He has been a big asset throughout this difficult season and his leadership and talent, matched with the team's hard work and determination, have paid off with our recent performances."
Honda chief executive Nick Fry on Wednesday strongly suggested that Jenson Button is part of the Japanese team's plans for 2009.
The Brackley-based squad is yet to confirm its race driver lineup for next year, amid the news that Bruno Senna - and another yet unnamed youngster - is to test at Barcelona later this month.
"I am absolutely convinced that if we, at Honda, give him the car that can do the job he can compete with Lewis," Fry, referring to 28-year-old Button, told BBC Sport. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Like Button, the Brazilian veteran Rubens Barrichello is also out of contract, and given Fry's latest comments therefore seems the most likely to make room for a newcomer.
"We are not hurrying to choose our drivers for next year," added Fry. "We can afford to wait until possibly just before Christmas.
Honda, who Fry admitted fielded a "weak" car this season, made a bid to attract Fernando Alonso, but it was announced on Wednesday that the Spaniard has re-signed with Renault for two further seasons.
Fry believes that Honda's increasingly poor finish to the 2008 season could pay off next year.
"We deliberately had a strategy of not doing much to this year's car, investing all our resources in next year," he said.
Piquet and Alonso have extended their contract with Renault
just found out from mate at work glock was hamiltons karting team mate when younger.. what a surprise. I hope this guy never wins a world champ again. I know hes british but wish he wasnt he doent even live in this country left cause tax reasons.. what a ....... ....
best driver in formula 1 for me is alonso
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The best thing Button has ever said!!!
Jenson Button insists he is a better driver than his British countryman Lewis Hamilton -- at racing a "bad car".
Hamilton wrapped up the drivers' title in Brazil one week ago, while Honda's 28-year-old Button completed the 2008 title eighteenth -- the lowest placed contender excluding those at the wheel of Force Indias or Super Aguris.
But he is quoted as saying by the British Sunday tabloid The People: "If (I'd) had Lewis' car then I'd have been World Champion too."
Button, whose only Grand Prix victory dates back to 2006, insists his comments are not sour grapes, but rather a reflection of his recent experiences.
"Lewis is a worthy World Champion but he wouldn't have done as well as me in my Honda."
"I mean, the guy has never been in a bad car. I think you learn from it and become a better driver trying to work with a bad car," he said.
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Well said Button!
A new row over money, with the Formula One teams on one side and the sport's ruling bodies on the other, looks set to intensify.
Britain's The Guardian newspaper reports that the teams, now allied together and pledging undying unity in the FOTA alliance, are angry about the huge debts being serviced by Formula One's owners CVC.
The newspaper said the more than $5 billion debts are requiring interest payments of more than $230m per year - with the teams suspecting that the FIA are in cahoots with CVC and Bernie Ecclestone amid the latest push to radically slash costs.
They are reportedly concerned that the annual debt payments total more than the commercial revenue they receive from CVC.
"We have had banks, oil companies, financial institutions and pharmaceutical companies with us as sponsors. We have raised this money. Why do we have to keep cutting costs?" a FOTA insider is quoted as saying.
"The sport earns a lot of money so let's look at our share," he added.
Ecclestone, CVC and F1's holding company Delta3 are, however, staying firm, insisting that teams receive more commercial revenue today than at any other time, even amidst a global financial crisis.
But another insider told The Guardian that the teams are keen to sit down with F1's commercial parties to renegotiate their share - also given Ecclestone's push into new markets that are willing to pay higher race sanction fees.
"(The calendar) used to be 12 races, then a maximum of 17. There used to be 80 percent of the races in Europe and now 80 percent are across Asia: the costs to the teams are much higher now," the insider said.
Whatever Pork.
Lewis Hamilton has echoed his boss Ron Dennis' defence that he is not arrogant.
Among the criticisms of the 2008 world champion that emerge from the paddock and the wider public, the 23-year-old's sometimes over-zealous confidence is arguably most often repeated.
"It saddens me people get a different view of me," Hamilton is quoted as saying by the Sunday Mirror. "But I'm young and I'm going to be here for a while. I'm going to do everything I can to open their minds."
"Hopefully, I'll be able to win them over and show them that I am a normal person and have good values and morals," he said.
Hamilton admits he possesses very healthy 'confidence' and 'self-belief' but warns against confusing it with arrogance.
"There are some people who express things better than others.
Some are a lot quieter. It just so happens I'm a bubbly kind of guy."
Another criticism often fired at Hamilton is his decision, for both privacy and tax reasons, to leave Britain and live in Switzerland.
"Britain will always be my love. I love my people, I love their support and I love the country - but I'm happy where I am," he said.
Fernando Alonso is unlikely to return to the Renault cockpit until the new year.
The Spanish newspaper Sport reports that Renault will begin its winter test programme in Barcelona next week without the former champion.
The 27-year-old, and other notable race drivers, will probably not reappear at test circuits until January, when the new 2009 cars begin to arrive.
However, Alonso is believed to have left the door open to possibly testing at Jerez in December, when many of the key attributes of the 2009 regulations will be up and running on the existing car.
Until then, Alonso plans to spend his time at his Swiss residence in Mont-sur-Rolle, and at his parents' house in Spain.
Renault's 2009 car is expected to be launched towards the end of January.
Toro Rosso will evaluate three drivers at next week's first post-season Formula One test as they seek to finalise their line-up for 2009.
Sebastien Bourdais, who raced for the team in 2008, will be joined by Red Bull tester Sebastian Buemi and former Jordan and Honda driver Takuma Sato.
The drivers will be evaluated over three days at Spain's Circuit de Catalunya, starting on Monday.
Both Toro Rosso seats are up for grabs after Sebastian Vettel joined Red Bull.
Frenchman Bourdais, a four-time winner of the US-based Champ Car series, is battling to convince the team he is worthy of a second season in F1 after an up and down debut year.
Buemi, from Switzerland, is a member of the Red Bull junior team while Japanese Sato is aiming to revive his career following the collapse of the Super Aguri team early in the 2008 season.
Brazilians Rubens Barrichello and Bruno Senna are also believed to be contenders for a Toro Rosso seat.
Veteran Barrichello is also in with a chance of staying at Honda next season alongside Jenson Button.
Senna, the nephew of the late three-time champion Ayrton Senna, is also in the frame at Honda - he is testing for the Anglo-Japanese team at Catalunya next week.
The former Minardi team, bought by Red Bull in 2006, won their first race last season, with Vettel taking the chequered flag in Monza.
They outstripped senior team Red Bull in the second half of 2008, when they were often battling to be best of the rest behind title contenders Ferrari and McLaren.
They use the same car as Red Bull, but fitted with a Ferrari engine rather than the Renault used by the senior team.
Force India owner Vijay Mallya is to replace Colin Kolles as team principal in a major shake-up for next season.
Chief technical officer Mike Gascoyne, former technical director at Jordan, Renault and Toyota, has also left.
The team announced it will use Mercedes engines, which power world champion Lewis Hamilton at McLaren, in 2009 after ending its deal with Ferrari.
"These new resources and developments will provide an enormous boost to our technical armoury," Mallya said.
The deal with Force India marks a shift for Mercedes, who since 1995 have worked exclusively with McLaren.
In another step forward, McLaren Applied Technologies, a company owned solely by McLaren, will also supply Force India with gearboxes and hydraulic systems. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif
Both McLaren and Mercedes will share their kinetic energy recovery system (KERS) - which will convert energy generated under braking into power that can be used for acceleration - with Mallya's marque.
"McLaren and Mercedes-Benz are two of the most famous names in motorsport history, having achieved great success in Grand Prix racing over many years," added Mallya.
"We said at the outset that we meant business and were not interested in merely making up the numbers.
"The announcement of our new technical partnership clearly underlines that we meant what we said."
Indian billionaire Mallya bought the Spyker team along with Dutch businessman Michiel Mol in 2007 and the outfit raced under its new moniker for 2008.
However, Force India failed to win a single point in their first season with Giancarlo Fisichella's 10th place at the Spanish Grand Prix their best result.
Team-mate Adrian Sutil was running in a brilliant fourth place in Monaco before Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen slammed into the back of him in the closing laps, forcing him to retire.
Now Mallya, who has stuck with Fisichella and Sutil for 2009, has initiated a major management restructure as he seeks success on the track.
"Force India is my most difficult project and requires more direct input from my side and greater performance accountability," Mallya said.
"We have come a long way this season but we need more and that requires a radical reorganisation.
"I would like to thank Colin Kolles for his tireless efforts in keeping such a small team alive and to Mike Gascoyne for bringing his wealth of technical experience."
Rubens Barrichello has vowed to retire from competitive motor racing if he fails to secure a seat in Formula One next season.
The 36-year-old veteran's Honda ride is in serious doubt, as the Japanese team plans to evaluate alternatives Bruno Senna and Lucas di Grassi - both graduates of the GP2 series - at Barcelona next week.
"If they are good they will keep the position," Barrichello, whose more than 270 starts makes him the most experienced driver in F1 history, said.
Toro Rosso co-owner Gerhard Berger this week did not deny that the Faenza-based team is in talks with the Brazilian about working together next year.
But if his F1 options do not materialise, Barrichello said he will not switch to IndyCar.
"Either I stay in F1 or I won't race," he said, speaking from his native Sao Paulo.